Soldier S fired 12 high velocity rounds in the car park of the Rossville Flats car park on Bloody Sunday.

BARRY MACDONALD QC SC: Q. You left the Parachute Regiment shortly after Bloody Sunday; did you not?


Q. Why was that?

A. I went to serve with another unit.

Q. You have said that you were injured in a firefight in the Middle East. I am not going to probe this in such a way as to require you to expose details of special forces, but you describe being involved in a separatist war. Can we take it that you were not involved in a separatist war as a mercenary?

A. Yes, you may — yes.

Q. But as a member of the British Army?

A. That is correct.

Q. And you were involved in firing thousands of rounds in total?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you know how many people you killed?

A. (Pause).

LORD SAVILLE: We have to be a bit careful of this, for reasons you are well aware. Perhaps we could ask him whether, in the course of firing those rounds, he killed one or more people.

MR MACDONALD: In the course of firing those thousands of rounds, did you kill one or more people?

A. Yes.

Q. Have you in fact killed lots of people?

A. (Pause).

Q. Have you?

A. Yes.

Q. You like firing guns; do you not?

A. (Pause). I am not even going to give that a serious consideration, I am sorry.

Q. You fired guns for as long as you could, until you were shot yourself, you could not fire guns any more; is that right?

A. No.

Q. Why is it not right?

A. (Pause). It is not like that.

Q. I will put it another way: in or about 1972, you had no compunction about shooting people or killing people; is that not right?

A. Shooting and killing people in my line of duty after leaving the Parachute Regiment was part and parcel of the job.

LORD SAVILLE: I think Mr MacDonald is going back to in fact the time of Bloody Sunday; was I right, Mr MacDonald? Can you repeat the question —

MR MACDONALD: In 1972 and specifically on 30th January 1972, you had no compunction about shooting and killing civilians.

A. That is not true.

Q. And I suggest that you fired 12 shots at least on this day, in circumstances which are so indefensible that you had to invent a ridiculous story about how you discharged your 12 rounds?

A. No.

Roseville Flats

The car park of Roseville Flats where Soldier S fired 12 high velocity rounds at fleeing unarmed civilians